what a nightmare. thanks, obama care. >> i just got a cancellation notice. this communist is denying me of my liberty to have crappy health insurance. thanks, obama care. but toure, who are you? >> death panel. thanks, obama care. >> this halloween is proving spooky and frightful for washington. the new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll is the little shop of horrors for politicians on both sides of the spectrum. no one comes out unscathed. president obama's approval rating has sunk to an all-time low, just 42%. for the first time ever, more americans view him negatively than positively. the gop's positive rating has also dropped to its all-time

low, 22%. their negative rating is tied for the highest ever. as for the larger american public, this halloween's trick or treat hall has more apples and boxes on razors than the full-size candy bars everyone loves. 70% say the nation is on the wrong track. half are convinced there's going to be another shutdown on january 15th. we start with the man who's not scared of the ghosts and goblins. nbc news senior political editor mark murray. mark, really fascinating poll. nearly half of the country does not identify with either party. they don't feel like they're being heard. 30% say they would prefer an independent or a third-party candidate for congress. that's more than wanted to vote for a republican. it's obviously early. and it's important to factor in the fact that we all have short attention spans. but how do you see this pretty significant desire for a third party impacting the political landscape leading up to the midterms? >> if i'm an incumbent, i'm

pretty worried. of course, there's a lot of time. we have a year away until the 2014 midterms. with this anti-washington sentiment that's out there, if you're an incumbent, whether from the senate or house of representatives and you're running for re-election, you have to be very prepared you're going to have an opponent who's going to say, this person's part of washington, elect me because washington's broken and we need some fresh air. of course, that's been an argument we've seen time and time before. washington is broken, let's throw all the bums out. but abby, this time might be a little bit different. one of the poll numbers that really struck me, 63% want to replace their current member of congress with someone else. that's the highest percentage on that question dating back to 1992. there's a lot of dissatisfaction out there. the question is whether that still remains the case a year from now. >> right. mark, dig into who these people are we're talking about, the 30% who want an independent, the folks who won't self-identify as democrats or republicans.

do they self-identify with more liberal, more conservative? do they identify with the tea party, or is it really sort of a mixed bag? >> krystal, that's a great question. i ended up digging into the cross tabs this morning to find an answer. the overwhelming number of folks who say they want a third party, and it shouldn't be surprising, are independent voters. these are the people who are usually in the middle. they aren't either usually democrats or republicans. but this was another -- this was the most interesting finding. a good portion of republicans who aren't allied with the tea party say they'd actually be willing to support a third party. so it really isn't the tea party republicans who say they want a third party. it's the republicans who aren't associated with the tea party, which just shows you the struggles that the republican party's having right now, the ideological fight within that party. that is a story that i don't think we're going to have a resolution to over the next several months. >> mark, i want to push back slightly against the idea that incumbents or the status quo has much to worry about. i think when i look at these numbers and everybody's numbers

are going down, i think what might happen is we're going to see increasingly depressed turnouts, that nobody wants to get involved with the process. people are disillusioned. typically as we see, 2012, 58% turnout, which is incredibly low given the rest of the world. midterms, 41%. that even seems high to me. so we're going to see folks in the middle, disillusioned, not come out. the fringes will have more power and thus you'll have more polarization and more incumbents who are able to keep the status quo going. >> well, to your point, so far in all the elections we've seen in 2013, the year after last year's presidential contest, turnout's really plummeted. it's not been up. we'll see in next week's elections in new jersey and virginia if that continues to hold true. you are right. sometimes the middle doesn't show up in a midterm election. i think the biggest factor that

we'll end up seeing is just the playing field. the big senate races are going to be in states like arkansas, alaska, louisiana. it's not your presidential battlegrounds we saw last year in ohio and in virginia. of course, you end up having the battlegrounds in house congressional districts. as you guys and others have pointed out, due to gerrymandering and self-sorting, these also aren't your probably most even playing fields at all. so geography is going to play out just as much as turnout. >> and you know, mark, it's halloween. i can't help but notice you wore your costume today as a handsome and measured journalist. >> well, thank you, ari. >> you're welcome. >> ari's dressed up as that too. >> i try. it's hard every day. what i want to ask you, though, is about some of the numbers in this poll that suggest perhaps we have an american public that's far more patient than sort of the political class and some of the media class that has been very a.d.d. republicans were on the march over, you know, the shutdown.

obama was in trouble. then obama was victorious. then he's back in trouble. when you look specifically at the website aca question there, what you see is you've got a rough third of the country that says, hey, these problems are fixable. more than another third says it's too early to tell. i think that's the right answer impeerically. it is too early to tell a verdict here on the rollout of the aca. what do you think that tells us about sort of a contrast between a patient public and an a.d.d. political class? >> you know, i think that's a great point that you end up making. you know, when you looked at our poll, president obama took some hits, it seems, on the aca rollout, but the law really didn't. as you mentioned, there does seem to be a lot of patience from americans, more so than folks from the media. i'd also mention folks on capitol hill, including democrats, who are very nervous. they were just meeting with the obama white house today going over what they are very worried about regarding this website. but they do have some time.

they don't have a whole lot of time, but they do have some time. the white house has circled that november 30th date on its calendar. i think the entire political world, journalists, politicians, everyone else is going to be able to see if they make that time, if they make it by november 30th, there's not going to be a big problem. if all of the sudden there are problems that come along after november 30th, then i do think that we end up getting to a situation where this becomes a much bigger political problem. >> one of the biggest, most interesting numbers out of the poll for me was that 50% think that we are likely to have another shutdown. i think that number needs a lot of unpacking. who are these folks? are they folks from the far right who want another shutdown, folks from the left who are afraid of another shutdown? are they folks saying they're angry that washington is moving this direction? are they folks who are saying they are numb to the prospect of another shutdown because they feel like we went through one without that much direct pain for a lot of americans? they don't understand what the shutdown did to america. so who is in that 50%? >> i think it's more the latter.

i think these are people who are numb and so dissatisfied with washington they accept this is just the status quo. then you look at today's activity in the united states senate where mel watt, the congressman from north carolina was blocked to head up the federal housing administration and housing agency, one of president obama's picks to head up the d.c. circuit court of appeals was blocked by filibuster. people just say washington is broken. this is just standard operating procedure. if you're looking -- if the past hikt ri is predictive, some people might not be all that far off if there's not some time of government shutdown in the future, i think we're going to get pretty close to it. >> right. a lot of frightening numbers in this poll and a real indication the american people simply lack confidence with their political leaders. as the man that understands these polls better than any of us, what was most shocking to you? >> i think it was the 63% of the folks want to elect a new member of congress. we do know -- and i was just

saying at the beginning, this is why i think that incumbents should be worried because nothing is easier than being an incumbent and winning re-election. of course, we see incumbents go down from time to time. but usually the winning percentage is something like 90% or so. but with 63% saying, look, i want my member of congress, the person who i know, i want a new person in that office. that's a big warning sign and that's something that really surprised me and of course, as i mentioned, that's the highest percentage we've had in that question dating back to 1992. >> quite a poll. thanks for breaking this down, mark murray. we always appreciate it. >> thank you. >> up next, the great and powerful putin. a freaky role reversal between the russian leader and president obama. "the cycle" rolls on. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ]

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now we have some nonbreaking news. according to "forbes", president obama is no longer the most powerful person in the world given the recent fallout over the nsa leaks, the debt battle, and what "forbes" predicts is an early onset lame duck presidency. the magazine dropped the president from number one to a different slot and handed it to vladimir putin. they argue the autocratic leader of a former super power is now stronger than the, quote, handcuffed commander in chief. spoiler, no word yet from the white house. i'm sure the president is just

devastated. anybody buying this? >> you know, i mean, i don't want to go too crazy with this. i don't know that "forbes" gave putin the top billing for all the right reasons, but i think there is definitely something to be said for the fact that this president, through no fault of his own, because a certain grouping of the republican party have decided they would basically do whatever it takes to keep anything that he wants to have accomplished from being accomplished, i think he does lack a certain power at this point. now, that could be rectified with a strong 2014, which republicans are doing everything in their power to hand him, but we just heard reporting from mark murray. he can't even get his nominations confirming for basic offices. >> i don't know -- >> i'm going to go off krystal's comment. i think this list should be a wake-up call. i think this recent poll that came out should be a wake-up call because the president -- you look over the past few months, you can laugh at me all you want, but the numbers speak for themselves. the president has not acted as if he's in control.

this strategy of i don't know or i didn't know as it relates to the nsa leaks or obama care -- >> that's not my point. >> no, the "forbes" ranking should not and will not be a wake-up call to the president. maybe he cares about these poll numbers, but he's not running anymore. he should not be running the presidency and the nation as if following these sort of poll numbers and this sort of ranking that pooutin is more powerful tn the president is completely absurd. this whole game is completely absurd. it partly deals with the idea of syria and this fallacy that not using force is less powerful than using force, so the president decides not to go into syria. so putin is more powerful. >> no, but i do think that the president should focus on the poll numbers. this is the american people speaking. what they're saying is, you know, you have not provided us with a whole lot of reassurance, a whole lot of confidence as president in moments of crisis where we need our commander in chief to make us feel like everything is going to be okay. i think they've taken a step back and said along with that, congress is clearly not getting

anything done. we actually want compromise. we want our leaders to get things done. i think obama should take this very seriously. >> the right is surely not talking about compromise. >> what do you think, ar snirks. >> hey, you guys. >> hey, there. >> you're hitting on something that republicans clearly want to seize on, abby, which is this idea that whenever something big and bad happens, he doesn't know about it, right. now, politically -- >> so he says. >> right. so politically, that may be a problem. in fact, your aument that basically from the website to nsa, he's like, i don't know what's going on. >> that doesn't wear on the american people longer term. doesn't provide a lot of confidence. >> we're still stuck on this idea he didn't know what the nsa was doing. but we know better. we have intelligence officials who are saying not only did he know, but he approved this sort of stuff. >> i just want to clarify that my point is a different one. we have ratings agencies also saying that the american economy is undermined by the dysfunction in washington. i'm not calling on the president to be a better leader.

i think that is a silly and simplistic notion. i am pointing out the fact that you have a group in congress that have decided they don't care if they hold the country hostage, they don't care if they hold the economy hostage, they don't care if they blow up their own party, they will do whatever they can to undermine the president. >> you also have -- guys, you also have -- >> you're absolutely right that the right has decided whoever is president, whoever is democratic president, that they will obstruct anything they want to do. this is not that obama could play this differently. we have a right that has decided to stop whatever motion that he wants. >> well, it's clear that the right has their own ideological struggles. they're down at a 22% approval rating, the lowest ever in history. but i go back to the fact that the american people are clearly wanting compromise. when the president comes out there and says, i'm not willing to compromise on anything with republicans, i'm just saying the numbers speak for themself. you can laugh at me and say this is not the case. this is what the american people are saying. >> who is he going to compromise with? john boehner?

john boehner and harry reid had a deal ironed out before the shutdown to pass a continuing resolution and avoid a shutdown. they had that deal. boehner couldn't deliver because i had caucus wanted to hold the country hostage. who is it the president is supposed to be compromising with? >> i'm just saying the american people look to the commander in chief to take charge. that's his role. guys, you know i'm not disagreeing on the fact the republicans, many of them, have made it virtually impossible to compromise. you know i'm not disagreeing on that. my point here is that the american people are saying we need to -- >> so we can't come here and say, the president should lead, when the right is saying, we won't go anywhere with him. whatever you want, even if you adopt a policy that came from the heritage foundation, we will oppose that tooth and nail with everything we can, with every possible idea we can. so where's the idea that he should lead more? he's not a king. he can't do everything. >> i think there have been a few moments over the past few months where he's had to walk back what he's said, whether it's on health care, whether it's on calling for the red line. i think he's had to walk them back. i think he's had to change his

tune. those are the moments where the american people are saying, where's the president that told me one thing a few months ago and it's suddenly very different and i have to change my insurance plan, whether or not it's better for them. why not tell me that years ago? >> for one thing, in 2010 they were very clear. "new york times," others reported that we knew certain members, and millions of folks within the individual marketplace would have to change their plans. we knew that. in terms of syria, you talk about red line, obviously when the information changes, you should change. having this sort of idea that i just do whatever i want to do, this george bush idea of i'm going to do whatever no matter the information, doesn't make any sense. the fact the president was able to walk that very thin line and not end up killing thousands of people in syria is actually to his credit when others would have thrown the bomb. >> we always say opinions are opinions, but facts speak for themselves. i'm strictly relying on the results of this poll and what clearly the american people are saying. >> ari, i think if the president would just have lunch with john boehner more often and invite

putin, that's a great idea. >> i think lunch with the right-wing republicans and putin with a little golf, hit the links afterward -- >> you know i'm a big fan of twister. you got a get a game of twister in there. >> no, i think this has been a really interesting back and forth in the sense that i come down obviously closer to toure's conclusion. >> no, you don't. >> what about you, krystal? >> i think what you're arctic laarctic -- articulating is that the american people, for some reasons fair and unfair, like issues on syria and the nsa, there hasn't been -- i wouldn't call it a vasculcuum of leaders. i wouldn't go as far as you put it. but i would say a mixed message for the public to end where we end up. someone who's critical of the process in syria and very comfortable and encouraged by where we're going, we had a deadline coming this week, we have the syrian government submitting chemical weapons to the international organization,

diplomacy. now, has the president explained to everyone and reasserted what's going on there? no. in fact, he's had to deal with a lot of manufactured crises by the congress, which goes to krystal's point which is why it's not as simple as saying, well, look, you've got to lead, you've got to meet -- you know, he's leading them out of their own desire to sabotage the economy. i thought this was interesting. >> thank you for sanctioning our segment. i'm glad it met your approval, ari. >> thank you for noting that. >> well, let me tell you something. sometimes when you're quiet, people are like, it happens at the dinner table too. you're like, were you not into it? no, i was so into it. i was just listening. >> you became a spectator. i love it. awesome. we're glad to amuse you. >> this is awkward enough. it's a wrap. >> up next, we have a real american horror story for millions of americans. [ male announcer ] need help keeping your digestive balance in sync? try align. it's the number one ge recommended probiotic

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the news cycle begins in syria where an international watchdog group has determined the assad regime has completed destruction of the equipment critical for chemical weapons. this comes one day before the deadline. meet america's newest senator cory booker, sworn in this afternoon. he's the fourth african-american senator to be popularly elected since reconstruction. right now booker is actually at the other end of pennsylvania avenue meeting with president obama at the white house. for years, flight attendants have been nagging us to turn off our devices for takeoff and landing. i never did. scientists repeatedly said it was impossible for the signals coming from even a planeful of devices to impact the plane. now the faa says that archaic rule is dead and airlines can allow passengers to use devices during all phases of flight. a small leap for man, a giant leap for common sense. >> i'm going to be tweeting krystal on every plane trip. >> looking forward to that.

sports now with me, of course. bean town is still celebrating this afternoon. the boston red sox knocked off the st. louis cardinals. sorry, mom. to take the world series in six games. this is the third title for the sox in just the past decade. before that, the so-called curse of the bambino left them 86 years without a championship. huge night in boston. all right. enough with the red sox. on to another sexy story, the farm bill. okay, maybe sexy is the wrong word. even if you're not a farmer or dressed up as one for halloween, you need to listen to this. the bill impacts everything from the milk you drink to the steaks you throw on the grill, not to mention the food stamps that one in seven americans rely on. here to explain is friend of the show, jimmy williams, former senior adviser to senate majority whip dick durbin. always great to have you. when you hear the farm bill, you think tractors, crops, maybe a small population of farmers who rely on it. it's actually much more important than that.

it's a massive piece of legislation that billions of americans rely on. it's a bill that has not been able to pass to this point and would have huge implications. help break this down for us. why is it so important? >> walk down the aisle of a grocery store. walk into your cvs or rite-aid, and pretty much everything is dealt with in the farm bill. not directly, but when it comes to the safety of our food, the safety of our tylenol, the safety of any prescription drugs. you said it, steaks to milk, all of that is contained within the farm bill. a traditionally nonpartisan bill that was always sort of divided up. the southerners got what they wanted. the northeasterners got what they wanted. the midwesterners got corn, et cetera, et cetera. that's always been the case until last year. unfortunately, the farm bill has now sort of broken down into even more of a -- it's come along with this partisanship

that's taken over the capitol behind me. the house passed their bill. senate passed their bill as well. they're going to conference. but the house did something interesting. for the first time ever, they took out the s.n.a.p., which is food stamps, out of the bill. $40 billion cut over ten years. they took it out of the bill. that made a lot of folks mad, not just progressives either. it made a lot of republicans mad. so here we are and we've got this bill before us. we got to figure out how to fix the problem. get it done. >> jimmy, you're absolutely right. this discussion you talk about, about taking food stamps out of this whole thing, and the whole discussion about the farm bill makes me mad. we see what else is in the farm bill is the center of modern conservative thinking, run eric cantor talking about the farm bill. >> the dignity of a job is what things should be about in these programs. in fact, going back to 1996 when a republican congress worked with president bill clinton, they overhauled the welfare program in this country and instituted a work requirement. that's all this does. what it says is, if you're

able-bodied, you should be willing to work, not that you have to have a job because there's many parts of the country that don't, but that you could go and participate in community service activities or work fair program. again, most people would say, no, i don't want a life of dependency. >> if you're able-bodied, you should be willing to work. this is more of the 47% of the conservative thinking about people are takers, that they lack motivation, that the poor lack character, that it's the liberal culture of dependency that's the reason why they are like this and if we just take away the safety net, they'll be fine and better. the problem is not the lack of intergenerational class in america. it's the culture of dependency and the character of the poor, that they don't want to work, which is so angering and disgusting to a lot of us. >> here's the problem with what eric cantor just said. he says they ought to be able-bodied. he said they ought to be able to

go out and do job training. they cut job training and worker assistance when they cut the s.n.a.p. benefits. they cut that program. that's the problem here. you can't tell me that you want people -- you have a congressman, this guy from the eighth district of tennessee, republican, came in with the tea party. he's a cotton farmer in tennessee. that guy, his family got something like $3.5 million in direct subsidies from the taxpayer, but he went to the floor during this debate and said, quoted from the bible, from god's word, and said that if you're able-bodied you should work. if you can't work, you shall no eat. but we're subsidizing this guy. the average s.n.a.p. person gets $133 a month in benefits from taxpayers. if you take the amount of money his family got from 1999 to 2012, you know what his subsidy per month was? $20,833. it's the height of hypocrisy. listen, i don't mind if you have

a policy disagreement and you think people should work on it. whatever, fine. but don't be a hypocrite about it for god's sakes. at least own up to your own subsidies that, by the way, you and i are paying for cotton farmers. by the way, debbie stabeno, chairman of the subcommittee, cut out direct subsidies in her bill. the house cut out all of theirs except for cotton farmers, the only industry that gets direct payments to date under the house bill would be cotton farmers like that congressman. that's amazing. >> that's disgusting. >> jimmy, what you're highlighting and the facts and numbers you're providing are essential here. there's been this talk that the farm bill was always this bipartisan thing and it's a part of the decline of congress, that it's gotten so hard to pass. i kind of descent from that. i understand people feel like nothing passes and that's frustrating. on the other hand, this was a lot of bipartisan handouts. the environmental working group estimated up to $9 billion a year in subsidies that overlap

with what you're talking about. don't you think there's a chance here that while the house republicans have been hypocritical, there's also a chance we get out some of the subsidies and get a real chance to think about the value system here of folks who would rather take out school lunches before these subsidiesubsidies? >> i'm fine with the issues of subsidies when it comes to things like crop insurance, especially for specialty programs. fruits and vegetables, things we like to eat, as opposed to corn for feed or cotton or tobacco or soybeans. that's always been crop insured. now all these other things we actually consume will be. i'm fine with that. i have zero problem subsidizini that as a taxpayer. i do have a problem, however, let's take sugar for example. the federal government this year alone will buy back from the sugar growers over $300 million worth of sugar, and they'll put it in a warehouse. why? because the government guarantees that if the sugar price goes below a certain number -- right now it's at 16

cents a pound. if that number goes below that, the federal government has to buy sugar and we have to put it in a warehouse. i don't know about you, but i'm not sure what the federal government and taxpayers are going to do with warehouses feeled with $300 million worth of sugar because we're propping up four sugar families down in florida, louisiana, and alabama. that, to me, is absurd. that's what should be cut out. >> unbelievable. jimmy, where are we? what's going to ultimately happen with this? >> well, listen, i will say this about the house bill. they did put in some -- they went towards chairwoman stabenow and put in specialty crops, the things we actually eat, consume that make us go. but they're going to have to figure out the s.n.a.p. stuff. you can't legitimately say, you know, the average person on snap is ten months or less. ten months or less. they make it sound like people are sitting on welfare for 15 years, which is not the case. >> right. >> that's the big divide. that's the bridge they've got to cross. they've got to fix that. after that, you're just talking

about numbers at that point. the house and senate bill are pretty close. >> they have to figure it out. jimmy, i can guess your answer to this one, but we asked our halloween facebook fans if someone came to your house trick or treating as senator ted cruz, what candy would you give him? we've had some real creative answers. good-b goobers, gummy works and jaw breakers. like us on facebook and check us out on thecycle .msnbc.com. there's also several halloween themed pieces. what would you give ted cruz in terms of coming to your house as a trick or treater? keep it clean. >> probably give him some benadryl so he'd go to sleep and shut the hell up. >> strong answer. >> or that bazooka joe edition where they teach you what a filibuster is in the cartoon so he can finally know what it is. happy halloween. >> oh, boy. all right. jimmy, thanks for joining us. up next, you're likely to see

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♪ say it with milk-bone. right now little ones around the country are donning costumes and plotting out their trick-or-treating routes in pursuit of candy. i, myself, have two baby pandas getting suited up at home. inspiration panda cam, of course. in the mix, you're likely to see some of these. ever since the first astronauts blasted off into space, their mini proteges have been a staple of the halloween holiday. in the guest spot, we have a treat. real-life astronaut colonel chris hadfield. he followed his dream to the stars and logged nearly 4,000 hours in space and bringing a whole new youtube generation

along for the ride. ♪ this is major tom to ground control ♪ ♪ i've left forever more and i'm floating in a most peculiar way ♪ >> his zero gravity of "space odyssey" has 16 million hits to date. it's one of the many out of had world internet kpcommentaries that's made chris a super star. author of the new book "an astronaut's guide to life on earth," he joins us in the guest spot. thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks for opening up the guest spot. i appreciate it. glad to be here. >> one of the things that people do know you best for is the videos that you uploaded. some of them had to do with sort of like daily life in space. so what are some of the things that we wouldn't necessarily expect that are crazy or hard to

deal with in space. >> so you want to brush your teeth. seems simple, right? well, we take a thing of water and you squirt. now there's a ball of water floating in space in front of you. take your toothbrush velcroed to the wall, put a little toothpaste on, brush your teeth. of course, there's no sink. you kind of either just spit out the toothpaste or swallow it. clean up. >> it's not bad for you like they say. >> it's not going to kill you. clean out the toothbrush, float another ball of water, clean your toothbrush, velcro is to the wall, you're done. but that applies to everything from the complex to the mundane. >> it's interesting. tell us how it feels to be in that sort of weightless world. you were there five months straight. what's it feel like? >> you would love it. you're weightless. it's the coolest thing ever. like in the bowie video. but being able to touch the wall

and do 100 somersaults. it's like having a super power. it's like a magic thing. at the same time, when you look out the window, the whole world is pouring by at 5 miles a second. >> do your insides feel different? >> when you first get there, they sure do. they feel awful. you want to throw up. after a while, you get normal. you can't burp in space because if you think about it, the gas isn't at the top of your stomach. it's sort of like bubbles and gas and solid altogether. so you can't burp in space. otherwise, your insides feel about normal once you get used to it. >> ari, you can't burp in space. you'd be lost. >> the first wave of astronauts were held up as big figures in public life. they were media stars. now you've done something very differe different. you might be better known for all the videos you've done. you've sort of taken the experience of it and maybe the science of it and cut around the media and gone directly to the

public with it. why was that important to you? what do you want people to get out of that? >> for me, the ultimate reality tv was the first moon landing. if you think about it, a billion people worldwide were invited in to watch something unscripted, live, see how it goes, whatever they say, whatever happens, happens. and it was hugely effective for the same reasons that social media is effective today. if you show people honestly what's happening, if you invite them in, you don't force them to watch, you don't yell at them, just say, come see what's happening. that's what we did on board our time on space station. you can come look if you like. as a result, millions of people got to see what it's really like living in space, not just the science and the experiments, but just people up there living, doing things, brushing our fooefooet teeth, making music. >> you gave a quote to "usa today" about what it was like to do a space walk. you said, in one hand, you're holding on to a space shuttle or space station, a human creation, just holding on with one hand.

if you look the other way, the entire rest of everything else, the universe is right there underneath your feet. it just made me think about, you know, most of us in our daily lives, we get wrapped up in taking the kids to school and brushing your teeth and getting to your job. do you have a sort of deeper grip on the infinite and more awareness of the infinite and the profound in your day-to-day life because your job and your work centers around contemplating space? >> i've had a visual perspective that is extremely rare in the human experience. i think there's been 200 of us out of the 7 billion in our whole history that have ever walked in space. so i'm not sure that it makes me any better, but it's a really strong, clear perspective of our place in it. if anything, it shows that we are a little less significant than sometimes we think in our daily lives. but also, we're in this together. and you really get a sense of that. it's pretty easy to think that

where you are is the most important place in the world, but when you see the whole thing around and around 2,500 times, you start to get a better sense of how we all actually fit in. >> i went sky diving, which is a fraction of your experience, but had that same sense of how small we are within this whole thing. >> sky diving is just like the colonel. >> he gave a caveat there. all right, colonel. thanks very much. >> thanks. nice to meet you. >> and up next, before there was "sharknado," there was sharktapus. inside the twisted mind that brought us some of the best/worst movies of all times, including "little shop of horrors," and the classic "wasp woman." >> who could possibly want to hurt him? >> i don't know. it's not only mr. cooper. ♪

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our next guest has put together a book about his work called "crab hon sters, teenage cavemen, and candy stripe nurses." the king of the "b" movies. the book is almost as much fun as his films. chris, films are extraordinary. but, you know, the movies are bad, but they're good. how did he do that? >> well, i think, you know, he was making these movies for really, really cheap. sometimes in two or three days. >> yeah. >> so, you know, you can't help but see some scotch tape and chewing gum holding the sets together. considering the restraint s he was dealing with the movies are really, really great. >> going through surveying his work in your book, he fully understands and appreciates the power of boobies. >> very powerful. i was trying to tell him. look, people have been going to see sex in movies since movies

bega began, and he certainly understood that. he started off in the period when the drive-in was everything. people would go to the drive-ins to see things th s that were ta and make out. he knew his audience and catered to them pretty well. >> how did he enup, looking at these movies, how do you end up in a place where, oh, making these movies is my calling? >> i think it's very lucrative business. he produced more than 400 movies. you can imagine that when you make movies, maybe they're bad, maybe they're great. they always make money. you stick with that formula. >> but he's made these bad movies. yet the people from the roger corman school of film making are extraordinary folks, scorsese, don howard, dennis hopper and even covax, the great sinning to

f cinemetographer? >> roger corman's studio was always a place you could find a way into the forbidden king tdo of movie making. he'd give young people who were willing to work cheap their first big break. yuck, talented people coming to work on your movies. they're getting invaluable experience on the films and take it on to their careers after. >> the book is awesome. thanks for being here, chris. up next, the masked marauder who abby says should be terrifying to the gop. avo: the volkswagen "sign then drive" sales event is back. which means it's never been easier to get a new passat, awarded j.d. power's most appealing midsize car, two years in a row.

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♪ wide open spaces ahu utah, my home state. the beehive state. home of the most beautiful national parks in the nation. some of the best skiing and mountain biking on earth. of course, the utah jazz, and, yes, the hub for mormons who arrived in the salt lake valley in wagons back in 1847. they said, you know what, this is the place. and who can blame them? if you've ever been out to utah, you know exactly what i mean. there is no place like it. and, of course, it's also known to have some pretty cool politicians. so, as a hometown utah girl i pay close attention to the politicians who represent the state i grew up in. one in particular has been g

getting a lot of attention. senator mike lee. lee swept into office during the tea party revolution of 2010. to win his seat, he defeated longtime conservative senator bob bennett. you guessed it, by being even more conservative. the huntsmans have been in utah politics for a long time and none of us considered bennett a liberal. lee's post-election message was somewhat reassuring. even to utahans that weren't as conservative as him, before officially making the move to washington, this is what he had to say. "the term flame thrower is not something i would say is self-descriptive when it comes to me. that's not really my personality to be a flame thrower. that implies someone ut there who wants to stir things up just for the sake of stirring things up." wow. hard to believe that statement came from the same man, now considered one of the most polarizes political figures in country, virtually tied to the hip of ted cruz and treated like a celebrity by conservative act vists who see him as a hero for holding the government hostage over obama care. how is it playing back home?

the answer. pretty door poorly. the junior senator is facing serious backlash for his extreme antics. lea not only has lee lost support of the broader public in utah, he's also quickly falling out of favor with key funders of his 2010 campaign. scott anderson, the president of a prominent utah bank who raised money for lee, said, "if things are to happen, you can't just stick to your principles. you have to make things work. you've got to be practical." then there's utah native spencer zwick, the finance chairman for mitt romney's 2012 campaign. he has branded lee a show horse and has vowed to campaign against the senator saying, "business leaders that i talked to, many of whom supported lee, would never support his re-election, and in fact, will work against him including myself." hmm. okay. i've got some insider utah politics for you. i hear mitt romney's son, josh romney, has been looking for an opening to run for office in

utah. challenging the not the so popular lee actually sounds like the perfect opportunity, and hey, maybe even a moderate democrat like jim mathson will jump in there, too. one thing is for sure, utahans have gotten less than they bargained for with senator mike lee. he wasn't the consensus choice. he was just a creature of the conservative movement. so mr. lee, it's been fun, it's been a nice run, but your inability to be practical, livid reality, and actually represent the very people who got you elected, has likely already cost you your re-election in 2016. raising outside money cannot save you, and attempting to maybe change your tune can't save you, either. because if there's one thing i know about utahans, they like prop solvers. day like authenticity and like loyalty. we're not talking about loyalty to the junior senator from texas. okay? that does it for "the cycle." now to a man that all of us are very loyal to, martin bashir, all your. good afternoon. it's thursday october the 31st. and a very happy halloween. or is it?